Tues 12 October “Green Drinks”

MCFly’s editor will be starting a discussion about the Manchester Climate Change Action Plan at the next “Green Drinks”, on Tuesday 12th October, from 6pm at Lammars, 57 Hilton St, in the Northern Quarter. Postcode M1 2EJ.

As with all “Green Drinks” events, well – as their website says
“This is a free networking organisation, bringing people together to discuss environmental issues and discuss ways in which to encourage sustainable living. Green Drinks is open to anyone who has an interest in the environment; including business owners, residents, environmentalists… anyone is welcome!”

The introductory provocative remarks will in part on this two page MCFly “bluffers’ guide to the Climate Change Action Plan“. As far as is known, Manchester City Council has never produced any similar explanatory document. Poor show, really.

(And both of MCFly’s readers will be relieved to know that he has now recovered from the shock of being very briefly promoted/demoted to employment with Manchester City Council in early publicity for this event.)

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2 Responses to Tues 12 October “Green Drinks”

  1. Patrick Sudlow says:

    Why is it most of the Green Drink and environmental events are held at expensive venues? If the Manchester environmental movement want to engage with the wider public. Would it not be better to hold these events in a pub or bar that does not rip-off the customer as Lammars and Kro do. Or is this a policy of the middle-class elitists amongst Manchester’s environmental movement to deter those of us on low budgets and do not have any academic qualifications?

  2. Hi Patrick

    Why is it most of the Green Drink and environmental events are held at expensive venues?

    “Most” Er, well, the Green Drinks is explicitly for businesses, so they’re not going to slum it, are they? And in my too-vast experience, most environmetnal events are held at the Friends Meeting House. Which doesn’t charge.

    If the Manchester environmental movement want to engage with the wider public. Would it not be better to hold these events in a pub or bar that does not rip-off the customer as Lammars and Kro do.

    Well a) I don’t think the “Manchester environmental movement” exists. There’s a scene- a bunch of groups running around like headless chickens. And I don’t think they want to engage with the wider public (though they SAY that they do).
    b) You aren’t forced to buy a drink at these places. They aren’t like grotty Soho strip clubs charging £25 for a glass of sparkling water.

    Or is this a policy of the middle-class elitists amongst Manchester’s environmental movement to deter those of us on low budgets and do not have any academic qualifications?

    Boff! A little bit of a chip on the shoulder there mate. I agree with you that the “scene” (as opposed to a “movement”) is chockful of over-empowered people with more money than class sensibility, but I am not aware of an actual *policy* on the matter.

    That said, I am sorry you feel that a lack of specific academic qualifications is a barrier to you. I think that must suck, especially if it is objectively as well as subjectively true. There are a lot of snobs around, it’s true. Me, I try for misanthropy rather than snobbery; I’ve met some brilliant people who I learn a lot from who never got past O levels. And I’ve met holders of PhDs who I am surprised to find can walk and chew gum at the same time. Chomsky points out that the higher up you go in academic qualifications, the more likely somone is to be frankly obedient and blinkered…

    Anyway, you’re v. welcome at Lammars on Tuesday. You don’t need to buy anything. Even the handouts and the MCFlys will be free.

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